WASHINGTON — Outspoken vaccine critic Robert Kennedy Jr. said Tuesday that he had accepted a position in Donald Trump’s administration as chair of a panel on vaccine safety and scientific integrity, in what would be the clearest sign yet of the president-elect’s suspicions about vaccines.
Kennedy’s remarks followed his meeting with the president-elect at Trump Tower and immediately sparked outrage from scientists, pediatricians, and public health experts, who fear the incoming administration could give legitimacy to skeptics of childhood immunizations despite a huge body of scientific research demonstrating that vaccines are safe. Many of those skeptics believe vaccines are a cause of autism.
Americans want an open honest discussion about vaccines and their safety – anyone opposing this is either corrupt or an idiot. By the way, your information about Wakefield is incorrect – the Lancet has reinstated his study and validated it. If you don’t know that and are continuing to spread this lie, you’re not very well informed on the subject of vaccines.
“By the way, your information about Wakefield is incorrect – the Lancet has reinstated his study and validated it. ”
This isn’t true. Wakefield’s study is still retracted as fraudulent, and Wakefield’s medical license is still revoked. Why would you even lie about this?
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0140673697110960
Still retracted. Always will be. The ethical failures of this paper, along with the manipulation of pathology reports and his failure to disclose his financial incentives is far more than enough to make sure it’s never taken seriously and keeps him from ever practicing medicine in any civilized nation.
You should get your news from real sources, not anti-vax blogs.
You actually have a couple of good points here. Still, we need a real study looking at the unvaccinated vs vaccinated. And, you got me, I took all three of my children to get vaccinated even after I had a vaccine injury because I’m so anti-vaccine. No buddy, I’m just anti-corruption, censorship, and the resulting medical tyranny for some people. Again, why so angry? What’s going on? Have you thought about getting offline and going for a walk?
“Still, we need a real study looking at the unvaccinated vs vaccinated.”
Unethical and/or worthless. The study I gave you was vaccinated vs. unvaccinated. It only indicated that the unvaccinated get more preventable diseases. That was the only conclusion that could be drawn.
If you’re not anti-vax, then stop using their really bad and tired arguments.
“Again, why so angry? ”
Stop trying to poison the well. It’s a pathetic logical fallacy. Grow up.
“Unethical and/or worthless. Stop trying to poison the well.” Amazing coming from someone defending the medical industry who poisoned our children–me and my children. And, I can’t help it that the anti-vaccine movement is bringing up more logical points than anyone else at the moment. If anyone would start acting ethically (inside industry or inside our government), we wouldn’t have this problem.
“I can’t help it that the anti-vaccine movement is bringing up more logical points than anyone else at the moment.”
Is this satire?
Can you name a single logical and factually accurate point that anti-vaxxers are bringing up?
” Amazing coming from someone defending the medical industry who poisoned our children–me and my children.”
Again, your lack of evidence for any “poisoning” from vaccines is obvious in all of your comments. You have no diagnosis, other than the one you made as Dr. Google.
Re: “but I have the order from the pediatrician. Most likely you don’t.”
It’s called in actually. Did you forget to take your prozac? Why so angry? Wait for it, the angry jab back…ah, I’m bored. But, thanks, you are right, I need to go down there and demand the test or something in writing explaining why he won’t give it or go to the medical board. Oh, wait, have been down that track. Doctors are allowed to do that in our corrupt, censored, controlled society. People are angry for a reason–what isn’t clear is your level of anger.
Re: Do you remotely understand correlation isn’t the same as causation?
Yes, more than you know. And, to get technical, the doctors said the trigger–not necessarily the “cause” of my chronic reactive arthritis was from Lymerix. That’s important to understand medically, but not in lamen conversations on the internet. The answer is that there is no definite answer without looking at an unvaccinated population and comparing, but that’s exactly what’s not allowed. Oh wait, we did it with the Amish, but the are fairly isolated. Can’t look at the people in the general population who aren’t getting vaccinated or you may find something that you don’t like.
Do you remotely understand this quote ““It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
“Oh wait, we did it with the Amish, but the are fairly isolated.”
Sorry, the Amish are vaccinated and have high rates of other disorders due to their ways and inbreeding. Just because they don’t get diagnosed with autism as similar rates doesn’t mean much, as they don’t actually take their children for any professional diagnoses.
I love your shill gambit, it’s really cute, in that standard anti-vax sort of childish way.
Also calling me “angry” is pretty much standard fare for your kind. It’s a way for you to poison the well against me.
Again, pathetic.
“Can’t look at the people in the general population who aren’t getting vaccinated or you may find something that you don’t like.”
And once again, showing your lack of an education in research. Self-selected populations are inherently biased, making such a study worthless. It has been done, however, and your kind didn’t like the results.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3057555/
This article is a downright propaganda piece with sweeping statements like “the science is settled”. It is not, it never was, and there is more than ample evidence against the poor immunization procedure that vaccines constitute… Time to do real science and stop the money-machine. Immunization can be done better than now with millions and millions of side-effects….
And this media is clearly in the Big-Pharma pockets…
“Immunization can be done better than now with millions and millions of side-effects…. ”
Actually the best science indicates that vaccines are FAR safer than the diseases they prevent, AND that there are relatively few side effects to vaccinations.
So why do you exaggerate? Is it because you read some anti-vax blogs?