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here it was again: During his first week in office, even as he unveiled policies affecting momentous issues from women’s health and war refugees to oil pipelines and immigration, President Trump seemed fixated on … less portentous topics.

He tweeted his scorn for the anti-Trump women’s marches in cities around the world the day after his inauguration. He told congressional leaders he lost the popular vote because more than 3 million people cast illegal ballots. After ABC’s David Muir, in an interview that aired Wednesday night, told the president, “I don’t want to compare [inauguration] crowd sizes again,” Trump plowed ahead, showing off a framed photo and saying, “the audience was the biggest ever, but this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.”

In early January, Trump had told “60 Minutes” that after he was sworn in he would be “very restrained” on Twitter, “if I use it at all.” That has not happened. The new president has continued to respond forcefully to seemingly every perceived slight. Is it deliberate? Or does his behavior reflect a personality trait such as narcissism, some kind of obsession that is driving compulsive behavior, or both?

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STAT interviewed 10 psychiatrists and psychologists — some supporters of Trump, some not — about the president’s behavior and what it might say about his personality and mental health. All are respected in their field and close observers of Trump. They based their views on his books, public statements, appearances, and tweets, but emphasized that they have no firsthand knowledge of Trump.

As a result, they can’t rule out that the president’s actions are part of an intentional political strategy, and not a reflection of particular mental states. After all, his confrontational style and egotism — adorning buildings around the globe with his name — served him well in business and brought him to the White House.

Still, even at arm’s-length, the analyses were strikingly consistent. Several of the experts, for instance, advanced the view that, as New York University psychologist John Montgomery put it, Trump shows “compulsive ‘more-than’ behavior,” meaning a desperate need to keep from feeling, even fleetingly, that he might not be superior to everyone else.

“I think it completely fits with him making up the millions of illegal votes idea … and not being able to accept the clear data about Obama’s [first] inauguration having a far bigger crowd,” said Montgomery, who voted for Hillary Clinton.

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Dr. Robert Pyles, a Massachusetts psychiatrist and Trump supporter, said the president’s behavior is within the normal range: “My liberal colleagues feel frightened and betrayed, so they go to this hysterical extreme of saying Trump has narcissistic tendencies, but what political leader doesn’t?”

Without exception, the mental health professionals said that would-be diagnosticians, including pundits and political foes, are misguided in asserting that Trump has a mental disorder — for one fundamental reason. According to decades-old criteria established by the American Psychiatric Association, a diagnosis of mental illness requires that someone’s behavior, emotions, or beliefs have two key attributes: They cause the individual to suffer clinically significant distress or impairment.

“Trump doesn’t meet DSM criteria” for any mental disorder, said Dr. Allen Frances, a professor emeritus of psychiatry at Duke University who oversaw the creation of a previous edition of the APA’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, considered the bible of psychiatry. “I wrote the criteria and should know how they are meant to be applied: Personality disorder requires the presence of clinically significant distress and/or impairment. The armchair, amateur diagnosticians seem either to be unaware of this requirement, or carelessly choose to ignore it.”

The APA’s “Goldwater Rule” prohibits psychiatrists from making public comments on the mental health of anyone they have not treated, but some psychiatrists believe that the rule restricts their right of free speech and argue that it is acceptable to discuss a public figure’s behavior with the appropriate caveats.

In an interview Wednesday with ABC News, President Trump discusses the size of the crowd at his inauguration. ABC News via YouTube

The threat of ‘less than’

While Trump does not meet psychiatry’s criteria, many of the experts said his public behavior offers a window into his emotional makeup and what drives him — the realm of psychology rather than psychiatry.

The experts see three key psychological traits: Trump’s apparent anger and his resulting confrontational behavior (and the related joy he seems to take in attacking those who challenge or criticize him), his narcissism, and his seemingly compulsive need to tweet.

Trump, said Ben Michaelis, a psychologist in private practice in New York City and not a Trump supporter, “has an intense focus on his popularity and the idea that somehow someone would be greater than him bothers him. It doesn’t take a mental health professional to figure that out.”

ABC’s Muir asked Trump about spending much of his Jan. 21 speech at the CIA’s memorial wall talking about the “crowd size at the inauguration, about the size of your rallies, about covers on Time magazine,” and wondered, “When does all of that matter just a little less … now that you’re the president?”

Trump didn’t answer directly. Instead, he described the speech as “a home run” that received “the biggest standing ovation since Peyton Manning had won the Super Bowl.”

That, too, fits the idea that Trump cannot abide feeling “less than,” in Montgomery’s words. Many critics took issue with the CIA speech, he noted, “so Trump makes up a completely absurd and counter-factual story about how great it was,” another “‘more than’ compensation for feelings of ‘less than.’”

“I see personality traits there that, if he came to me [for therapy], I wouldn’t be shocked.”

Dr. Janis Chester, Delaware psychiatrist

Psychiatrists who voted for Trump have also wondered about his behavior. “I see personality traits there that, if he came to me [for therapy], I wouldn’t be shocked,” said Dr. Janis Chester, a psychiatrist in Delaware. “But he couldn’t be what people say and have kids who are so wholesome and so connected to him even after his divorces” from their mothers.

Other mental health professionals see in Trump’s years of insults of beauty pageant contestants, political rivals, journalists, and many others evidence that he derives deep satisfaction from “abusing and hurting people,” Montgomery said.

Trump would hardly be unique on that score. Studies have shown that social aggression and, in particular, revenge, release neurochemicals that can trigger a sense of reward. Research has also found that people feel good when they engage in “altruistic punishment,” or vengeance against someone who has (in the eyes of a beholder) committed some infraction. But Montgomery suggested that Trump might feel that more than most: “If someone makes him feel bad, he seeks revenge on them.”

“Anger seems to be a very prevalent emotion for Trump,” said psychologist Dan McAdams of Northwestern University, who is not a Trump supporter. Although psychology generally considers anger a negative emotion and one that is unpleasant to feel, “for Trump it is also positive,” he said, “because it gives him a sense of righteousness.”

Inflated self-regard

Accounts of Trump’s childhood describe how he “wanted to be No. 1” and had a deep “need to excel.” While that describes countless people who go on to stellar achievements in business, politics, sports or other fields, McAdams sees something more extreme in Trump because it is combined with intense narcissism.

Every psychiatrist and psychologist who spoke to STAT mentioned what they perceive to be Trump’s inflated self-importance and self-regard, and a need for excessive admiration, for the attention and adulation of others, and to feel dominant and superior.

There are two views of where that narcissism comes from, McAdams said. Some psychologists trace it to not receiving enough attention as a child. “In this view, the child’s need to be the center of attention and the apple of someone’s eye wasn’t gratified,” McAdams said. “So they’re desperately trying to get that experience as an adult. This goes with seeming to have high self-esteem but really not having it, or why are they out there constantly seeking glory?”

A competing view, with stronger scientific evidence, is that a child who “gets reinforced like crazy for being the center of attention” becomes emotionally addicted to that adulation, McAdams said. Trump’s father, Fred, told Donald, according to biographies, “You’re my favorite, you’re a killer,” McAdams noted. “Rather than satisfying and soothing” one’s emotional and psychological need to be the focus of attention and valued, he said, “that pours gasoline on the fire,” stoking blazing narcissism and the need to “seek glorification over and over because they can’t get enough.”

Hence Trump’s post-election victory rallies and the apparent need to keep himself the center of attention through provocative tweets. “It’s affirmation that he needs,” said McAdams.

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Before politics, Trump’s apparent need to be front-and-center manifested itself in his practice of stamping his name on nearly everything he did in business, from buildings and a “university” to steaks and wine. Of course, that’s not necessarily evidence of narcissism; it could be smart marketing. But McAdams, who combed through Trump books and news accounts, points to an especially telling episode. At his father’s 1999 funeral, Trump’s remarks focused on himself — “It was the toughest day of his own life” — and on how Fred’s greatest achievement was raising the famous, brilliant, mega-successful Donald.

When narcissists do not receive the admiration, attention, love, and adulation they need, when they begin to feel that their greatness is not being recognized and paid obeisance, they typically feel either rage or an intolerable, jump-out-of-their-skin anxiety.

“The obvious thing with Trump is that he can’t tolerate psychological pain,” said psychologist Gary Greenberg, a therapist in Connecticut, author of the 2013 expose “The Book of Woe: The DSM and the Unmaking of Psychiatry,” and not a Trump supporter. “He has to immediately eject the pain; he can’t sit with it.” That is typical of a compulsion, he added, in which “you have to act on what you feel. You wake up at 3 a.m. and you have to say something” to drain the painful anxiety, including anxiety that comes from bottling up anger for even a moment.

Enter Twitter.

Donald Trump stands next to one of his three Sikorsky helicopters at New York Port Authority’s West 30th Street Heliport in 1988. Wilbur Funches/AP

Anxiety-driven compulsions

A compulsive behavior is not necessarily evidence of a disorder. Whether it’s checking one’s phone constantly, playing video games, shopping, or any other behavior that can be taken to extremes, “it’s a mental disorder only if it doesn’t provide a pleasurable reward or benefit” and if it does cause that requisite duo of distress or impairment, Duke’s Frances said.

But while Trump’s — and other prolific tweeters’ — embrace of 140-character communication is not compulsive in the clinical sense, it likely reflects a milder compulsion. A compulsion is an action that “is forced on a person” because it is the only way they can relieve unbearable anxiety, said Frances, who has been critical of Trump’s policies and actions.

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In this understanding, the anxious person seizes on whatever behavior can defuse the anxiety — hence the constant hand-washing or picture-straightening of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Many people, but especially narcissists, feel anxious about being dissed or insulted or verbally attacked in public; most can only wish they had a platform to strike back. Trump does. At his first post-election press conference this month, Trump assailed what he called “fake news” stories about him and said that while many people are victimized by such stories, “I have this great megaphone, I can fight back.” And he has, such as when he tweeted about Meryl Streep after her anti-Trump speech at the Golden Globe Awards.

Chester, the Delaware psychiatrist, sees that as strategic, not evidence of psychological issues. Trump’s angry tweets used to bother her, she said, “but now I think it’s deliberate: He sets the news cycle. He knows how to use it to his benefit,” including by throwing raw meat to his core supporters.

“Publicly observed behaviors are important data but only a piece of the puzzle,” said psychiatrist Dr. Matthew Goldenberg, of Yale University, who is critical of Trump. “A person acting in a certain way — for example, overly aggrieved — may do so because they are legitimately aggrieved, which may seem reasonable or may be a reflection of underlying vulnerability to offense. But he or she may do so not as a reflection of true feelings but in order to achieve certain goals, such as sympathy or political advantage.”

Experts doubt that Trump will change: At age 70, he is likely set in his ways, and his behavior has brought him huge success. That’s a key reason why “people trying to diagnose Trump as having a mental disorder are wrong,” said Frances. From Trump’s late-night, angry tweets to his denying that he did or said something caught on video, “he apparently gets pleasure, not distress, from these things, and they made him president,” Frances said. The tweeting, in particular, “makes perfect sense, and he’s rewarded for it,” with attention and, from his fans, cheers.

Frances warned, however, that this is a potential pitfall of psychoanalysis from afar: No outsider can know whether Trump, alone with his thoughts and emotions at 3 a.m., is feeling significant enough distress to place him that much closer to meeting the criteria for a mental disorder.

What an outsider can tell, though, is that far from impairing him, these behaviors vaulted Trump into the highest office in the land. That criterion alone rules out mental illness. “He’s crazy like a fox,” said Frances.

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  • …. maybe we are not AWARE of any ” clinically significant distress” in Trump due to any mixed personality disorder, he may have, but maybe HE is..also this man is the President of the US, that makes a difference in our expectations of his behaviour. One must agree that Freud wouldn’t mark him high in the ego department!

  • I can easily compare him to a four year old that desperately needs attention, being good or bad is not a consideration. His alleged fascination of Hitler makes perfect sense. Hitler was a nobody, a failed painter, enlisted personnel in the army, and then a prisoner for a petty crime. He equated himself, took notes, set goals and the rest speaks for itself.
    Trump didn’t have that good fortune, from silver spoon, to idol, to silver platter.
    His prison was a military academy. His first year must have been hell. After that it improved each year with more cadets being subservient to him. Then the draft, No juice so was only maybe would he be an officer. And 2 Lt was lower than a lance corporal. Plus if he got to far on the wrong side of his troops there was always fragging. Nope avoid at all cost and Europe was perfect. To top it off he was good looking and what we would call arrogant was a regal plus.
    Draft ended time to split for home. Daddy kept his butt out of any cracks that he couldn’t pull it out of quickly enough. Allowing him time to find a Fine trophy wife and make some babies. Was a big shock when she dropped him like a bad habit. Least she got a fine hotel, on the north end of the strip, in Las Vegas.
    So cut to the chase, he is still a brat, probably see Barron as him 60yrs ago. He has gained enough power to abuse people via hid lawyers or more blatant tactics. I don’t think he is bright enough to have planned this election alone.
    But, with no ethics to restrain him, away we go. A whole party was waiting for him. tea party, nationalist, kkk, thugs, goons, bullies, an other ner’ do wells. And his need for approval is being fed.
    Is he crazy, venal, desperate, failing so badly that he couldn’t let anyone know. Mortified and humiliated that his children and wife know. Even shamed that he isn’t studly any more. Or all of the above.
    Folks, I am no shrink, hell, I am a bit older than Trump. But I have spent most of my life assessing people and what kind of a person they are, trustworthy, honorable. Been right 9 out of 10 times, and lived through my mistake
    If DJT doesn’t get us all killed, he will get those that survive hated for a long time.

  • “Personality disorder requires the presence of clinically significant distress and/or impairment.”

    ““The obvious thing with Trump is that he can’t tolerate psychological pain,”
    “He has to immediately eject the pain; he can’t sit with it.” “you have to act on what you feel. You wake up at 3 a.m. and you have to say something” to drain the painful anxiety, including anxiety that comes from bottling up anger for even a moment.”

    -The idea that Trump DOESN’T suffer significant distress is laughable. I’ll take a bet that the PhD.s asked would say Trump has NPD overwhelmingly, while whatever Trump supporters you asked were psychiatrists.

    Allen Frances is wrong to anyone with even the slightest behavioral insight, and to say Trump doesn’t meet the criteria is to project that Dr. Frances is wearing clothes.

    As a New Yorker who has witness Trump’s narcissistic rage, Dr. Frances insults the profession and does the public a great disservice. (Regarding Tweets and compulsion, I remember the newspaper ads Trump took out asking for the death penalty for a bunch of innocent boys.)

    Good lord. He helped write DSM. Hey, I know a brain surgeon who believes that Genesis is literal who might want to poke around Dr. Frances’s little grey cells.

  • And the issues? Not acting on climate change? Denying refugees refuge? Contolling women’s bodies? Giving wall street free reign when we know what happens there? Letting waste be dumped into our rivers? No minimum wage? No affordable health care? Making everyone afraid so people give up freedom? No free internet? Letting Monsanto controll al the seeds? Not listening to scientists?

    • Hurting people wins him constant admiration and applause from the people who put him in office. It’s his drug.

      He doesn’t have policies or a philosophy … he has statements and actions that produce a public response that feeds his addiction. Period.

  • Mr. Murty: I’m afraid the clarity of your last two sentences is lost in the insanity of your argument. Time to see a shrink, maybe?

    • No you did not. You roadblocked EVERY SINGLE ONE of President Obama’s initiatives no matter if they were YOUR OWN IDEAS FROM THE PAST or not.

      Try fooling someone with a lower IQ (You are going to have to find someone with a less than 40 IQ to fool them with this tripe)!

  • It seems to get worse every day. AND, why every weekend in Florida? Why are not his ‘fans’ complaining about the $$$$ being spent?? IMPEACH….ASAP….not my President. AND, I would bet those who approve of Trump spent much of their time bashing President Obama….calling him bigoted names….still doing it, it seems. I’ve had enough of Trump…..

  • So according to psychiatrists “a diagnosis of mental illness requires that someone’s behavior, emotions, or beliefs have two key attributes: They cause the individual to suffer clinically significant distress or impairment.”
    By this definition Trump does not have mental illness but then neither would a sadist or masachist or Hitler. As long as they could still function without distress then they are sane? What about the distress of everyone around them? If their sickness is that they liked inflicting pain or having it inflicted then this is not mental illness? I really do not understand this criteria.

    • Thank you for that comment Margaret Smith. This is why the field can have many pit falls. A supporter doesn’t think this man displays traits of mental illness. Would question if I would set an appointment with her. As humans not sure if we are capable of being unbiased whether you have the single or not

    • I’ll add that Trump would never seek therapy. It’s remarkable to me that anyone in this article would even imagine such sessions. I’m guessing that a number of professional are a bit upset that when it comes to behavioral insight, we “amateurs” who live the examined life often have more emotional intelligence than a cloistered MD.

  • Labelling or remotely diagnosing President Trump as ‘crazy’, ‘unhinged’, ‘warped’, ‘narcissistic’, ‘paranoid’, ‘schizophrenic’, and/or suffering from ‘Narcissistic Personality Disorder’,

    Is greatly damaging to the campaigns dedicated to reducing the stigma of mental illness, and the safety and wellbeing of us suffering from real and properly diagnosed conditions, why?
    Because it doesn’t stop at these diagnoses. It is then stipulated that because of this President Trump is unable to carry out a role of responsibility, and is dangerous and unpredictable, a liability to himself, everybody, everything around him. Liable to explosive, unprofessional and unpredictable outbursts and in any case is delusional and a pathological liar.
    This by extension is incorrectly and quite wrongly applied to all suffering from any mental illness.

    These so-called professionals would do well to abide by the reminders issued recently and reread the “Goldwater Rule”, this is first published in the American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics and states:

    “On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

    If you don’t like/hate President Trump and think he’s a dangerous idiot with a complex , who shouldn’t be in charge of a paper bag, let a lone a country. Then please have the guts to come right out and say it, rather than hide behind a stigma inducing subjective, unproven, unprofessional remote diagnosis of mental illness.

    • Okay then. I believe that trump is not representing the majority of Americans , does not have sufficient experience in politics, is more consumed with his own image than those he is in a position to serve, and as such, is dangerous and unfit to be president of this great country.

  • The Political Personality of 2016 Republican Presidential Nominee Donald J. Trump. Working paper, Unit for the Study of Personality in Politics, St. John’s University/College of St. Benedict, October 2016. Abstract and link for full-text (31 pages; PDF) download at Digital Commons: http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/psychology_pubs/103/

    The Leadership Style of U.S. President Donald J. Trump. Working paper, Unit for the Study of Personality in Politics, St. John’s University/College of St. Benedict, January 2017. Abstract and link for full-text (14 pages; PDF) download at Digital Commons: http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/psychology_pubs/107/

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